Let Me Get This Straight.....If I'm Religious or Believe in God, I'm Ignorant?
Originally this morning, I was going to take advantage of my mood and rant about 3 or 4 things, but I wanted to take some time to let all these topics rattle around in my head for a bit and sort of masticate and then digest my thoughts before spewing them back up out here, for all the world to see.
Yes my dears, if you are sensing a theme here, you would be correct. I’ll just mention briefly (before going headfirst into my rant) that my 3 Hour GTT has been scheduled for Monday. How apropos is that? I won’t have to dress up for Halloween, that’s for certain….not when [after the test] I’m going to look and feel like death itself!
Ok so, where was I? Oh yeah, my rant.
Being that this has to do with religion, let me just start by stating that I respect those of all religions, regardless. And my respect extends to those who hold no particular faith, as well as those who don’t believe either way, whether they are agnostic or atheist. Period.
I do however expect that same respect that I extend towards others, to be extended back to me. Meaning that, if I choose to hold certain spiritual beliefs and have faith, I expect you to leave it at that and not label me ignorant, deceived, blind, a sheep, or anything else clever you can think to call those who choose to exercise their freedom of religion. I don’t shove what I believe and hold precious down your throat and don’t call you backwards or blind, nor do I choose to tell you that you’re going to go to hell because you don’t believe the way I do. That’s not up to me anyhow. Good thing too, because the way I’m feeling right now, I’d probably not extend too much good will towards you if it were the end of your life and the decision were left to me as to where you’d end up.
This whole rant got started out of something I read on a message board. The thread that started it was little more than to say, "this is what I believe and why". Those who participated, up until a certain point, kept things pretty civil and levelheaded and were able to express their opinions and feelings in a (for the most part) mature manner….up until when someone mentioned that they don’t believe. Now that would have been ok. Just leave it at that and everyone is fine. But no, she didn’t leave it at that. She decided to add onto her feelings that she chooses not to live in ignorance, meaning that those of us who do hold certain beliefs and faiths, live in ignorance.
That’s what made me so angry.
Her statements somehow infer that those of us who believe in God are not only ignorant but that we use religion as a crutch to get by, that we seemingly can't cope on a day-to-day basis without religion, or God, that this "crutch" negates any faith that we might have because in the end, it's a crutch, it's not actual faith. In this person's eyes, we seem to be unable to deal with real life without the blinders that believing in God, or religion provides us.
This isn’t the first time she’s made really blatantly stupid comments. She’s one of these people that believes you can’t possibly live a normal life if you are spiritual – but she really aims it towards Christians, and she’s also one of these people who loves to villanize those on the right, regardless as to whether they support the President or not. If you lean to the right, are conservative, or one of these so-called neo-cons, she believes you’re evil, deceived, willing to deceive others in order to meet your own needs, etc. Add to this she believes that the President and his cronies underhandedly masterminded and orchestrated 9/11 and brought down the two towers intentionally. According to her, it was all one huge conspiracy. Of course her “evidence” that she brings forth to support her position on this matter holds no weight.
Anyhow, her conspiracy theories are neither here nor there.
What bothers me is that she had to go so far as to call those with faith, ignorant. It’s ok to not believe. I’m not saying you must have one faith or another. What is not ok is to label someone ignorant if they choose to believe. While you’re sitting there trying to look superior and intelligent, you do yourself a huge disservice by attempting to make those who disagree with you look like they are lesser beings.
In the end, it’s you who appears ignorant.
I’d have had much more respect for her had she just left her ramblings at how she began, with a quote from Carl Sagan; “I don’t want to believe, I want to know.” But then again, what’s even more intriguing about this, is her misuse of this quote…for Carl Sagan wasn’t talking about religion, he was talking about the universe.


7 Comments:
I just had to go and read that posting...lol. What a twit! You can bet in her time of need, she'll be calling on some sort of God. Or she will be alone. I give thanks every day, for my faith. It has seen me through some tough times. Don't let her get to you Auds. She's an idiot.
Sandra
I know Sandra....
The other thing that got me, and of course came to me after writing what I did and having to go out and run errands, was the fact that not only was her comment stupid, it was insulting.
I consider myself an intelligent, independent thinking adult capable of making sound decisions and choices based not only on personal experience, but study, research and yes, sometimes prayer. And the inference made by her remark was just as bad as having come out and saying to those who believe in God;
"You're stupid, deluded twits who don't know any better and are so lost in life that you have to hang onto this myth of "God" in order to give your life any meaning."
And I've actually seen her make comments that are almost word for word what I've stated above.
I think what "got" to me most was the fact that her comment was so insulting.
How many people do we know that do actually give religion a bad name, or give Christians a bad name? Plenty probably. But how many untold countless others who are well educated, literate, articulate, people who have an unshakable faith and belief in God, who wouldn't even begin to think of insulting those who absolutely don't believe or label them "ignorant".
*sigh*
In the end....to each his own. Still though, it's sad when one has to resort to labeling someone "ignorant".
oh yes, I have had "fun" moments with the mentioned person. Believing that screwy conspiracy theory??! I think that takes more faith than believing in God, because it's down right stupid, and requires a lot of sheep-like qualities to believe!! I don't think I have ever butted heacs with someone on VJ as much as I do with this person. But then at the same time this person was very excited about our AOS interview...ya, I just don't get it. Does this person respect me for arguing with them? Seems strange but true. And I could rant on and on about other things, like their self-righteous psychological analysis of everyone. Well I've been mean enough! But should say to you Auds..."preach it sista!". ;) hehe
butting heads*** not heacs :D
It's getting harder and harder to tolerate that woman. I keep telling myself "ignore her, ignore her, ignore her" and so far it's working. But I just KNOW I'm going to snap soon. And you know what? Good. She needs a nice big verbal slap in the face.
Marissa, I'm sure you saw the email I just sent ya....I'm having a hard time with a couple of folks out there. I don't go out there for days, even weeks on end, and when I do, I end up blowing a fuse.
And now that stupid "American Taliban" remark. Yep, later on today or early tomorrow I'm probably going to spew big time on the blog.
I've just gotten to the point where I don't like what I see happening around the world right now. It's seemingly becoming NOT ok to hold any sort of religious or spiritual beliefs, it's not longer ok to sing Frosty The Snowman during what are now being labeled "Holiday Pageants" at school for fear of insulting or offending someone.....WTH? What does Frosty have to do with religion? Hell, we could name him Mohhamed (sp) the Snowman. How much longer before I can't go Christmas Caroling anymore for fear of some extreme Islamist throwing something at me while I stand there and sing "Jingle Bells"....now see, that sounded bad didn't it? I used Islamist whereas I could have said' "Atheist", "Agnostic" or hell, even LIBERAL! I don't even know if "Islamist" is even a word, but you get where I'm going.
I mean really now, if we're going to go this far, then lets go all the way...change the wording on coins and in the Pledge of Alliegance....But come on, how many people do they think are gonna go for THAT?
And if they do, lets just re-write the entire constitution. Hell, lets just re-write history....Lets change things around so that the story goes something like.....our founding fathers left England to avoid the yoke of tyranny and high taxes on their tea, and leave it at that. Lets just leave out that little bit about religious persecution.
Yes, lets keep religion and state seperate, but lets not lose ourselves in the bargain.
Yeah, I read your email and I have to agree with you one billion percent - ET makes me want to gag. Actually, I DO gag when I read his crap. He's by far more full of hatred than anyone else on VJ.
I'm getting sick of the state of the world too. Do what "feels good", it's fine. But DON'T EVER mention Christianity. That is the one "feel good" subject that is actually wrong. Gay marriage, abortion, terrorists? Let's have a little tolerance, people. But wait, Christianity?? How DARE you!!!
My new VJ sig:
Does the world hate you? Remember that it hated me first. 19If you belonged to the world, it would love you like one of its own. But you do not belong to the world. I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. -- John 15:18-19
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